Someone who commented on my spout online seems confused, "Do those numbers include shootings by private citizens only or are officer involved shootings in there too?" Neither my spout, or the one I was addressing had anything to do with police. "Also, Not understanding your numbers...30,000 killed by gun violence, then 8,000 firearms..." A portion of the spout I was referring to was set off in quotation marks, and mentioned the incorrect figure 30,000. My reply was based on FBI/DOJ numbers available to the public. It seems that some folks assume that the police do as much shooting as TV cops.