Well lets see ,the democrats in congress and the White House ,that would be Joe Biden ,are warning the senior citizens and military service people that they will not get paid if the debt ceiling is not raised. That is a threat and a lie .Those folks have to be paid under the law and the payments are automated. The government only furloughs 17% of the workforce during a shutdown. Money for welfare,medicaid, foreign aide,are never stopped. Politicians all get paid even those furloughed workers get paid like a vacation.