Well Liberals, Proof a good guy with a gun SAVES LIVES! A 16 year old disturbed kid with a "Shotgun" shot and killed 3 students and a teacher in an Oregon school. I've said this for years here, a gun is a tool, and a good bystander WITH A GUN shot and killed the school shooter. See, the shooter din't have an "AR-47 SUPER SEMI AUTOMATIC KILLER ASSAULT RIFLE"! He had a shot gun, a hunting shot gun. My husband hunts and he said shotguns can do as much damage as any "Assault rifle" and it's a fact! I own a hand gun and can shoot well, but you don't need a carry permit to save a life!