A spout stated, "... A judge ruled that no guns would be allowed to be carried into a public meeting held to discuss the criminal act and its consequences. The judge's reasoning is obvious: no guns at the meeting ensures there will be no gun violence at the meeting." He/she is right. The Oregon group were not patriots exercising their Constitutional rights, they were dangerous fanatics. As a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment, we recognize that like everything else, it must have reasonable limitations.